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30th November
MoT's every other year?
A recent Treasury review of "EU red tape" reported that the UK government has a tendency to take EU regulations to the extreme, making them hit the British public - and British business - rather harder than actually intended. The report, undertaken by Lord Davidson of Glen Corva, used the annual MoT as an example - EU minimum requirements are for testing every other year, starting when a vehicle is four years old. In fact, of course, the UK's testing regime pre-dates UK joining the "common market" in 1972, so no-one can argue that our annual testing regime has anything to do with the EU. However, the report has triggered a serious discussion on the testing regime that has been reported in various organs of the media.
FBHVC has yet to take a view on the subject as we have not seen any firm proposals, but first reaction is that we believe all vehicles should be thoroughly checked at least annually, however few miles they travel, and an annual MoT provides the discipline to ensure that happens.

21st November
Metric feet?
Motor Cycle News recently carried an item highlighting the fact that the UK’s derogation from EU Directive 80/181 is due to end in three years. When it ends, it will be illegal to put on the market (by way of trade) with packaging showing imperial units - in general, everything will have to be metric. FBHVC is investigating to establish whether or not the exemptions built in to the legislation extend to parts and tools for the repair of vehicles built using imperial units. It appears at first sight that it will not be illegal to market a ruler calibrated in inches, but it does appear it will be impossible to describe it correctly on any label. We aim for a report in our first newsletter of 2007.

17th November
FBHVC Public Liability Insurance Scheme improvement
The Public Liability Insurance scheme arranged by Willis Ltd for FBHVC subscriber clubs was introduced early in 2006 and has already seen 35% of clubs seek quotations, with cover being taken up by over 50% of those making enquiries. Brief inspection of those who had not taken up quotations showed one of the main reasons to be an exclusion in the optional Product Liability section of cover that effectively prevented clubs with spares schemes from selling safety critical components (meaning parts for the brakes, steering and suspension).
At a review meeting in October, FBHVC pressed this point. Willis referred to underwriters, AIG, who have agreed to amend the exclusion so that it only applies to the manufacture of such parts, thus allowing clubs to supply them. We are awaiting detail of the revised wording, but believe this to be a valuable improvement to the scheme.

30th October
Users' Guide
As part of its commitment to the EU Road Safety Charter, the Federation Internationale des Vehicules Anciens (FIVA) is publishing a guide for users of historic vehicles to encourage drivers to maintain the current low level of serious accidents involving older vehicles.
The guide can be seen HERE and will be available for UK clubs to distribute to their members early in December.

18th October
The Historic Vehicle Movement in Britain is worth £3.2 billion annual turnover.
This represents a quarter of the European total of €16 billion identified by the FIVA survey (see below). The results were announced to an audience of MPs and journalists in Westminster on Wednesday, 11 October and again at the FBHVC Annual General Meeting on 14 October.
Unlike the European survey, the British survey had been done before some ten years ago at which time the headline value was estimated at £1.6 billion. The historic vehicle movement in Britain is alive, well and growing.

5th October
Historic Vehicle Movement in Europe is worth €16 billion annual turnover
The results of a major project to assess the social, cultural and economic value of the historic vehicle movement in Europe were announced in Brussels last night. This showed that activity surrounding historic vehicles involves millions of people in Europe and contributes significantly to national economies.
The project, involving 750,000 questionnaires in nine different languages using five currencies was managed on behalf of the Federation Internationale des Vehicules Anciens by FBHVC's immediate past chairman, Geoff Smith. The analysis of the questionnaires was undertaken by Drs. Paul Frost and Chris Hart of the Historic Vehicle Research Institute.

14th September
Environment Agency action

A recent case brought by the Environment Agency (EA) against Terry Brown, a Rover specialist, who had several "donor" vehicles on his premises has sounded some serious alarm bells. On 8 September, Terry was found guilty of keeping "waste" without the appropriate waste management licence to entitle him to do so.

FBHVC cannot become involved in individual cases, so we make no comment on the rights and wrongs of this particular case, but we have been concerned by remarks that were made during the course of the trial that suggest that EA thinks that anyone who acquires and keeps a vehicle that has reached the end of its useful life needs such a licence. We do not believe this to be the case.


13th September
Transport Minister visits Beaulieu
Dr. Stephen Ladyman MP, Minister of State at the Department for Transport with responsibility for roads, accepted the suggestion made by Greg Knight MP (chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Historic Vehicle Group) that he should visit the Beaulieu International Autojumble to see for himself the enthusiasm, skill and knowledge - as well as the parts - that underpin the historic vehicle movement. Dr. Ladyman was accompanied on his all too brief visit by Greg Knight (left) and FBHVC Chairman, Andrew Burt. He later joined the FBHVC committee at an informal dinner and confessed to being sorely tempted by an Alfa Romeo Spyder that he had seen when visiting Bonhams stand...

5th September
European Parliament recognises importance of historic vehicles
The European Parliament has approved the text of a proposal for a Directive on passenger vehicle taxation (aimed at simplifying vehicle taxation structures across EU). The approved text included this amendment: “in the interest of preserving classic and old vintage vehicles, nothing in this Directive shall inhibit the right of Member States to exempt vehicles of at least 20 years of age from circulation taxes.” This clearly demonstrates that the European Parliament sees historic vehicles as a special case.

 

1st September
Lord Strathcarron
We are sad to record the passing of Lord Strathcarron - one of those larger than life characters, David Strathcarron was President of the Guild of Motoring Writers and as such was a great friend to FBHVC. He had been employed as a salesman by Rolls-Royce in the immediate post-war years at which time he was also a semi-professional racing driver, retained by Marwyn for their 500cc single seater before graduating to Alfa Romeos. He was an equally enthusiastic motorcyclist


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31st August
Good news for TVO tractor owners
Tractor vaporising oil (a kerosene based fuel) has not been marketed in bulk since the 1960s. A few suppliers would make it up to order, but most people who have needed this fuel have created their own using kerosene heating oil - either straight or mixed with small portions of petrol or diesel according to their preferred recipe. This was technically illegal, and certainly illegal to use this fuel in tractors used on the road since kerosene is a "rebated" fuel on which the normal road fuel duty has not been paid.
FBHVC took this matter up with HM Revenue and Customs earlier this year and with the help of the National Vintage Tractor and Engine Club and the Cornish Tractor Club put forward a request for a licence to allow kerosene to be used as a tractor fuel. That licence was granted on 30 August and allows owners of pre-1960 tractors who are members of a FBHVC subscriber club to mix rebated kerosene with other fuels (excluding red-diesel) in the tanks of their tractors. Full details including the text of the licence will be published in Newsletter 5/2006 at the beginning of October.
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2nd August
Want to Help?
It isn’t always easy to find the right people to fill well-paid vacancies, let alone the totally unremunerated key positions within clubs. FBHVC is no different from any of its subscriber organisations in this respect and is currently looking for volunteers to become involved with international liaison with a view to taking over when present incumbents retire in the not too distant future. Interested? Please contact the secretary.
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26th July
Continuous Insurance
There has recently been a flurry of misinformed press comment on the subject of “continuous insurance”. These have been triggered by a misunderstanding of the intent of section 21 of the Road Safety Bill wending its way through parliament. This section will make it an offence to be the keeper of a vehicle that does not comply with insurance requirements: those requirements will be specified more precisely in regulations that will follow when the Bill has been enacted. We have been assured by Dr. Stephen Ladyman, Minister of State for Transport, that there will be no requirement for SORNed vehicles, or vehicles that have been off the road before SORN was introduced, to be insured.
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12th July
MP's at Beaulieu
At least two Members of Parliament will be attending this year’s Beaulieu autojumble (9 & 10 September) as guests of FBHVC President, Lord Montagu of Beaulieu. Labour MP Dr Stephen Ladyman, who is Minister of State for Transport will be visiting together with Greg Knight MP, the Conservative Chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Historic Vehicles Group.
Lord Montagu and the MP's will be guests of FBHVC at a dinner following a committee meeting at Beaulieu on Friday, 8 September. FBHVC will have its usual stand adjacent to the Press tent and committee members will be on hand to discuss problems with enthusiasts.


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10th July
Meguiar’s Car Enthusiast of the Year
Congratulations to Lord Montagu of Beaulieu on winning the 2006 Meguiar’s “Car Enthusiast of the Year” award. The award will be presented at a dinner on 30 September. Meguiar’s press release on the award said “Lord Montagu [is] active in the national and international classic car scene, currently serving as President for the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs …”
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02 / 05 / 06
New DVLA Consultation on Fees
At the end of April, DVLA published a document that combines a summary of the responses it received to its 2004 consultation on fees together with new proposals that again centre on "administration fees". Click on the link below to view the document
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/public/Consultation.pdf

FBHVC will be studying the new proposals with some care, but first reaction is relief that the 2004 proposal to charge for SORN declarations that had so many people so angry has not re-appeared.


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27 / 04 / 06
Drive It Day hi-jack.
Visitors to the Drive It Day page on this site during March and the early part of April would have found this message:
Drive It Day (or Ride It Day as some prefer), is not a protest against the EU or against fuel taxes or anything else - the purpose of the day is to emphasise the size and importance of the historic vehicle movement in this country. Road transport is an area of our national heritage that is sadly neglected by the general media with the result that the public know little about what happens. Drive It Day is to put the historic vehicle movement in front of the public - on the road - so people can see the wonderful range of historic vehicles that we have in this country.
Imagine our surprise, therefore, that the British National Party should have reported (with a link to our site) that the "British Historical Vehicle Club's" rally was a protest against EU laws. Aside from refuting this, FBHVC wishes to make it clear that it is not aligned to any particular political viewpoint and is neither pro- nor anti-EU. FBHVC exists purely to uphold the freedom to use historic vehicles on the road. It is also worth pointing out that over the years, the historic vehicle movement has had remarkable co-operation from EU in this endeavour. For an example of the level of co-operation and respect in which the historic vehicle movement is held, please see the first item on page 2 of our newsletter 6/2005.


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24 / 04 / 06
" Drive It Day"
The weather was not as kind to us as it might have been, but the roads of Britain certainly looked different on 23 April with a tremendous response from enthusiasts up and down the country to FBHVC's call to "Drive It" or "Ride It" . Thank you all.
FBHVC plans that this day chould be a permanent feature of our calendar and would be pleased to have feedback on the idea. In particular, should we change the name to "Use It Day" so it doesn't matter however many wheels "It" might have? And should we stick with 23 April, a Monday next year, so the encouragement will be for people to use their historics for their daily business - or should we stick with the last but one Sunday in April? Please e-mail the Secretary with your views.


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24 / 03 / 06
Red Diesel
Enthusiasts for agricultural machines have been concerned about HM Revenue & Customs moves to tighten up on the use of rebated diesel or Red Diesel. FBHVC can find no evidence of any tightening up of the regulations, but there may well be a move towards stricter enforcement. The rules for the use of rebated fuels are quite straightforward and are contained in HM R & C notice 75 issued at the end of 2002. A simple summary is that only machines registered and licensed as Agricultural Tractors may use red diesel on the road, and they must be using the road only incidentally to agricultural, horticultural or forestry work. Any other tractor that is licensed must use full tax paid fuel at all times.
More in FBHVC Newsletter 2/2006
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23 / 03 / 06
Sale of registration documents
The upsurge in popularity of e-Bay has seen large numbers of old style log books being advertised for sale, often with the implication that the documents might be used to obtain a period registration number to give authenticity to a registrationless rebuild. Nothing wrong with buying the log book as an interesting historical document, but don't be surprised to find the registration voided - DVLA officials have access to e-Bay, just like everyone else. Some clever (devious?) souls have managed to go one stage further and have obtained modern registration documents that relate to vehicles that no longer exist: again, be warned, the numbers will be voided if DVLA finds out, and those involved face potential criminal charges.
Consultations
February and March have seen a much larger than usual number of consultations from government departments.
For more details, see FBHVC Newsletter 2/2006


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06 / 02 / 06
London Low Emission Zone
At the end of January, Transport for London published their expected consultation on proposals to create a "Low Emission Zone" aimed at improving air quality in Greater London. The proposals can be found at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/low-emission-zone/default.asp and include suggested measures to restrict (or at least discourage) the use of older commercial vehicles. There are no proposals to impose restrictions on the use of older cars or motor cycles as it has been recognised that these make little contribution to overall pollution levels. FBHVC's legislation team will be looking at the proposals over the next few weeks.
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30 / 01 / 06
MoT tests for steam engines and tractors?
Some owners of steam engines and tractors that are classified in the historic vehicle class have been asked to produce an MoT when attempting to renew their nil rate tax discs at Post Offices.
This first came to FBHVC’s attention just before Christmas last year and was immediately raised with DVLA who were unaware of the problem. It has taken some time to establish what has gone wrong. The explanation is that it seems the data transmitted by the DVLA system to the Post Office system has been programmed incorrectly to cater for licensing applications for MoT exempt vehicles in the historic taxation class, so it is likely this problem will also extend to pre-1960 testing-exempt lorries.

The problem is that although the V11 form for renewing tax is produced correctly, when the Post Office operator scans in the bar code on the V11, the data provided to the Post Office system says that an MoT is required, thus discouraging the Post Office from issuing the disc. Because DVLA has a freeze on amendments to its computer system, which is currently being up-dated, it will not be possible to correct this error in the immediate future, so tractor, lorry and steam vehicle owners need to be aware of the problem - and how to get round it with minimum inconvenience.

The simplest thing to do is to sign either form V112 or V112G – these are declarations that the vehicle referred to is exempt from MoT / good vehicle testing respectively. The forms are very simple and are available from any Post Office which handles motor vehicle licensing.
They can also be downloaded from the web at
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/forms/frms_vehicles.htm If the appropriate form is presented at the Post Office counter in lieu of an MoT certificate, the clerk can proceed to issue the tax disc. If difficulties are still experienced, the clerk should be asked to ring the Post Office Helpline.


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20 / 01 / 06
New insurance scheme for FBHVC clubs
FBHVC has negotiated with international insurance brokers, Willis Limited, a new scheme for Liability Insurance for FBHVC subscriber clubs. Before your club’s insurance renewal is due, we suggest you obtain a quote from the new scheme before renewing your old cover.
The scheme is due to be launched on 1 February 2006 and is underwritten by AIG Europe (UK) Limited. It has been created in response to concerns expressed by many subscriber clubs that the cost of public liability insurance was becoming prohibitively expensive. All policies under the scheme will expire on 31 January each year, so initial premiums will be calculated on a pro-rata basis.

In outline, the benefits of the new FBHVC scheme are:-

Premiums for £5,000,000 Public Liability Cover as low as £95 plus IPT for the smallest clubs, rising to £570 plus IPT for a club of 600 members with larger clubs being individually rated.
Availability of Product Liability cover (minimum premium for this section is £500 plus IPT);
Modest minimum premiums for other “add on” sections
Employers’ Liability at £50 for up to five paid employees, plus £10 per paid employee thereafter.
Building and office contents cover at a modest minimum premium.
Further options include: Health and Safety; Libel and Slander; Professional Indemnity; Directors and Officers Liability; Key Protection; Travel; Money; Personal Accident.
Simple proposal form.

Proposal forms will be distributed to all club main contacts shortly – please e-mail the secretary if you haven’t had one and would like one.

Please note that under Financial Services Authority regulations, FBHVC is unable to make any recommendations about insurance. It is up to individual member clubs to ensure that the insurance cover they take out is suitable for their activity. FBHVC will not be receiving any commission from either Willis Limited or AIG Europe (UK) Limited.

FBHVC wishes to thank Eric Jones of the Austin Seven Clubs’ Association for his immensely valuable groundwork, without which this scheme would not have come in to being.


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15 / 01 / 06
FBHVC de-coke
Older engines generally benefit from a thorough overhaul, and that is just what the FBHVC committee has embarked upon for itself. Instead of a routine business meeting, the committee spent a weekend in January reviewing, analysing and discussing FBHVC's structure, aims and objectives. The last such review took place some seven years ago. Avoiding too much distraction from the fascinating archive and library of the Vintage Motor Cycle Club, where the meeting took place, and with the help of Lyndon Shearman, an independent facilitator, several points for future action were identified. A programme of development aimed at reinforcing FBHVC's position at the hub of the historic vehicle movement, and thus ensuring that FBHVC is able to continue to "uphold the freedom" to use historic vehicles is now underway
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2 / 12 / 05
Misplaced Panic
Several organs of the historic vehicle press have majored on small elements of a DVLA report that was published earlier this autumn and have created unnecessary worry and concern when none need exist. They have also described existing guidelines (that have been in place for around ten years) on registration of modified and rebuilt vehicles as if they were something new. Those guidelines can be found at http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regrebil.htm
DVLA undertook a consultation last year on the various vehicle inspections that are relevant to vehicle registration procedures. The consultation was an examination of the value and effectiveness of those inspections and although it proposed no changes, it did invite suggestions for improvement etc. DVLA recently published a report on the responses it received. The report contains recommendations for further consideration - these are NOT recommendations for action. The time to panic is when the further consideration (which will include consultation) turns into a proposal for action that will have an adverse effect - FBHVC would expect that reasoned argument would prevent reaching that stage.

Some of the matters that have been recommended for further consideration include tightening up inspection and registration procedures for re-constructed classics. That would not affect classics that are currently registered and which are being rebuilt to (or close to) original specification, but might affect the ability of someone who has created a vehicle from many different sources to obtain a new registration without either having a Q plate or having the registration records annotated appropriately.


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22 / 11 / 05
FIVA/FBHVC Survey of the Historic Vehicle Movement in Europe
Survey forms have been flooding in to FBHVC over the last couple of months and with another six weeks to go, a return of between 12 and 15% is expected which will give the analysts much greater confidence in their results than is usual in such exercises.
If you haven't completed a survey form - please do so now: your club should have sent you one. And if your club hasn't sent you one ... it might be worth asking why!
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21 / 11 / 05
Violent Crime Reduction Bill
Well, yes - we are all in favour of anything that will reduce crime, whether it be violent or otherwise, but there are times when the legislators go over the top. Measures in the first draft of this Bill aimed at controlling the manufacture, sale and use of imitation/de-activated weapons would have made it impossible to display a preserved military vehicle carrying a de-activated weapon in public. Pressure from many quarters (including FBHVC) persuaded the Home Office that their original proposals were excessive and the Bill was amended to take de-activated weapons out of the controls.
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21 / 11 / 05
MoT Re-Test Fees
VOSA has announced it is proposing that from next August the fee structure for MoT tests will be changed to allow a half-price re-test for a vehicle that has been removed from an MoT testing station for repair after failure, provided the re-test takes place before the end of the tenth working day after the original test. At present, if a vehicle is removed from a testing station for repair to anything other than a trivial fault, the tester is obliged to carry out a full re-test, for which he is entitled to charge a full fee.
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5 / 11 / 05
Some good news from the House of Lords
During the course of committee discussion on the Road Safety Bill in the House of Lords on 26 October, Earl Attlee proposed an amendment that would require the UK government to have regard to the need to avoid retrospective legislation concerning the construction and use of historic vehicles when negotiating with the European Union. The amendment was supported by Lord Montagu, FBHVC President, Lord Berkeley (owner of a 1931 Lagonda), and Viscount Simon.
The good news comes from the reply given by Government Whip, Baroness Crawley, who stated that the government would not expect any suggestion for retrospective application of technical standards to vehicles unless there were exceptional reasons and commented that it was difficult to envisage any such circumstances in view of the relatively small number of historic vehicles that are in use. [Full report in issue 6/2005 Newsletter due for publication at 1 December]
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13 / 10 / 05
Relief for autojumblers - at least temporarily
John Whittingdale, MP, the sponsor of the Private Members' Bill to introduce regulation governing occasional sales, has agreed to accept an amendment that would take autojumbles out of the scope of his Bill. The request was made by Greg Knight MP, Chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Historic Vehicle Group. It is understood that Mr Whittingdale's primary concern is to limit the scope for the sale of counterfeit goods, especially CDs and music tapes. The Bill is due to receive its second reading during October.
The spectre of the impending Home Office consultation on the possible extension of the Kent Act remains.
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4 / 10 / 05
New insurance requirements announced
On Friday, 30 September, Road Safety Minister, Dr Stephen Ladyman, announced proposals to make it an offence to own a car which is neither insured nor registered as off the road. This means that if a vehicle is licensed, it must be insured - or if it is not insured, the keeper must have declared SORN before the insurance expired. The measures have been tabled as amendments to the Road Safety Bill that is currently wending its way through Parliament and are expected to come into force later this year.
This follows a consultation on monitoring continuous motor insurance from the record that closed in February this year. FBHVC is checking to ensure that owners of vehicles that have been off the road since before the introduction of SORN will not be affected.

 

 

 

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